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Collection of Fiebre Verde
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PostPosted: Sep 21, 2015 15:32    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Cunas (#567)  

In https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=46858#46858 Fiebre Verde wrote:
Smoked quartz vug?? -> https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/download.php?id=60926


It seems Calcite to me (with inclusions)
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PostPosted: Sep 21, 2015 15:49    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Cunas (#567)  

Jordi Fabre wrote:
In https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=46858#46858 Fiebre Verde wrote:
Smoked quartz vug?? -> https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/download.php?id=60926


It seems Calcite to me (with inclusions)


Agree, calcite seems a more reasonable guess Jordi.
Never seen specimens with quartz vugs in the emerald districts.
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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2015 15:46    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Calcite with deep striations - La Pita (#541)  

Calcite crystals show deep striations.
Striated calcite is not uncommon in the La Pita district but this specimen exhibits a pattern which looks more like a series of ridges than ordinary striation.
I would love to hear an explanation on this - growth pattern? else?



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 Mineral: Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
La Pita mining district, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 7cm across
 Description:
 Viewed:  95763 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
La Pita mining district, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 7cm across
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 Mineral: Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
La Pita mining district, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 7cm across
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 Mineral: Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
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 Mineral: Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
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PostPosted: Dec 16, 2015 02:47    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde  

Hello Fiebre Verde,
It seems like an etching-dissolution pattern.
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PostPosted: Dec 16, 2015 15:45    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde  

yowanni wrote:
Hello Fiebre Verde,
It seems like an etching-dissolution pattern.


Thanks for answering Yowanni!

I ruled out this possibility because of the geometric regularity of the patterns observed on all faces of the calcite crystals.

I am interested to know if anyone here has already came across this type of patterns.

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PostPosted: Dec 16, 2015 17:02    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde  

It looks anthropogenic to me...
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PostPosted: Dec 16, 2015 17:47    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde  

I have seen calcites with that pattern after hydrochloric acid treatment.

very likely in your specimen.
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PostPosted: Dec 16, 2015 18:07    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde  

A combined process to form "interesting looking crystals" out of damaged or cleaved Calcite???
First a scratch job with a file (pocket-knife-file?) and then a short acid bath?
So much work to manufacture an average specimen, at best?

More questions than answers...
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PostPosted: Dec 17, 2015 01:31    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde  

Thanks Minsur, Jordi & Rocardo. Seems like we have a consensus on the origin of these strange patterns!

This does not really come as a surprise to me as emerald sculptures and carvings is an important business in Bogota. Usually the artistic emphasis is focused on the low-grade emerald material and not the surrounding crystals!

Can't remember how this specimen ended up in my collection.

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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2015 15:47    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Chivor (#573)  

A recent find from the Chivor district.
Pyrite is partly oxidized.



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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Dolomite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Chivor mining district, Palo Arañado Mine, Municipio Chivor, Eastern Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 63x45x15mm, main xl=10mm
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 Viewed:  94887 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Dolomite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Chivor mining district, Palo Arañado Mine, Municipio Chivor, Eastern Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2015 16:25    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde  

Very nice indeed!
This one is certainly NOT carved;)))))
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2015 16:32    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde  

minsur wrote:
Very nice indeed!
This one is certainly NOT carved;)))))


...nor glued :-)
Thanks Minsur.
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PostPosted: Dec 23, 2015 13:44    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - La Pava (#574)  

If the beryl prism is light-green, clean and bulky, it might then come from La Pava.
Unfortunately La Pava has a very erratic production and specimens from this location are rarely seen in the market.
The La Pava tunnel is located about 5km west of the historical Tequendama Muzo mining area.
Could not resist posting several images of this specimen!



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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, La Pava Mine, Quípama, Municipio Muzo, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 85x62x64mm, xl=8x9mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98148 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, La Pava Mine, Quípama, Municipio Muzo, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 85x62x64mm, xl=8x9mm
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 Viewed:  98135 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, La Pava Mine, Quípama, Municipio Muzo, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 85x62x64mm, xl=8x9mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98135 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, La Pava Mine, Quípama, Municipio Muzo, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 85x62x64mm, xl=8x9mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98157 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, La Pava Mine, Quípama, Municipio Muzo, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 85x62x64mm, xl=8x9mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98125 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, La Pava Mine, Quípama, Municipio Muzo, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 85x62x64mm, xl=8x9mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98159 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, La Pava Mine, Quípama, Municipio Muzo, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 85x62x64mm, xl=8x9mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98155 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, La Pava Mine, Quípama, Municipio Muzo, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 85x62x64mm, xl=8x9mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98175 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Beryl (Var. Emerald), Calcite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, La Pava Mine, Quípama, Municipio Muzo, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 85x62x64mm, xl=8x9mm
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 Viewed:  98149 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Dec 24, 2015 12:15    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Euclase (#6101)  

I thought I could end the year on a light note.
It's Colombian, it's a beryllium mineral but it's not a beryl...
La Marina mine is also known for producing the equally desirable pink tabular fluorapatite.
Euclase was historically produced in the Chivor mining district (mainly the Gachalá mining area).
Although La Marina is just a few kilometers off the La Pita mining district, emeralds have yet to be found.
Host rock is black shale.

Happy Christmas to all of you!

Fiebre Azul (for a change)



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 Mineral: Euclase, Calcite, Albite (variety cleavelandite)
 Locality:
La Marina Mine, Municipio Pauna, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 74x46x29mm, xl=7mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98058 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Euclase, Calcite, Albite (variety cleavelandite)
 Locality:
La Marina Mine, Municipio Pauna, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 74x46x29mm, xl=7mm
 Description:
Oxidized calcite rhombs on the other side
 Viewed:  98079 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Euclase, Calcite, Albite (variety cleavelandite)
 Locality:
La Marina Mine, Municipio Pauna, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 74x46x29mm, xl=7mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98151 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Euclase, Calcite, Albite (variety cleavelandite)
 Locality:
La Marina Mine, Municipio Pauna, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 74x46x29mm, xl=7mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98122 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Euclase, Calcite, Albite (variety cleavelandite)
 Locality:
La Marina Mine, Municipio Pauna, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 74x46x29mm, xl=7mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98088 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Euclase, Calcite, Albite (variety cleavelandite)
 Locality:
La Marina Mine, Municipio Pauna, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 74x46x29mm, xl=7mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98087 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Euclase, Calcite, Albite (variety cleavelandite)
 Locality:
La Marina Mine, Municipio Pauna, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 74x46x29mm, xl=7mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98090 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Euclase, Calcite, Albite (variety cleavelandite)
 Locality:
La Marina Mine, Municipio Pauna, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 74x46x29mm, xl=7mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98070 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Euclase, Calcite, Albite (variety cleavelandite)
 Locality:
La Marina Mine, Municipio Pauna, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 74x46x29mm, xl=7mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  98087 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Dec 25, 2015 12:14    Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde  

Fiebre azul, why not hand over this really ugly BLUE crystal to one of these modern, state-of-the-art labs, where they will just spill over some yellow stuff to turn its awful light blue colour into a beautiful GREEN. And then, of course, trim the whole thing to a "Killer"- Thumbnail:-((((
Caso resuelto;)))

By the way, I am beginning to understand, why I see this amount of screaming fakes, even at big shows and with important dealers. You must have cornered the market for the authentic and nice specimens;)))))

Thank you so much for your interesting postings and to come to an end... felizes fiestas:)
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