We use cookies to show content based on your preferences. If you continue to browse you accept their use and installation. More information. >

FMF - Friends of Minerals Forum, discussion and message board
The place to share your mineralogical experiences

FMF English Forum is moderated by John S. White and Peter Megaw
 

Spanish message board






Newest topics and users posts
05 Dec-05:37:49 Re: new generation for picture - ploum (Ploum)
04 Dec-20:28:22 Re: asbestos name change (Woody Thompson)
04 Dec-18:09:03 Re: collection of sante celiberti - a mineralogical trip through italy (Sante Celiberti)
04 Dec-16:10:55 Re: new generation for picture - ploum (Ploum)
04 Dec-14:27:18 Re: "jaguar" agates from wy (Bob Harman)
04 Dec-13:31:57 Re: "jaguar" agates from wy (Jrh4)
04 Dec-11:39:46 Re: a mineralogical trip through the regions of the uk - england / county durham (Jesse Fisher)
04 Dec-11:00:27 Re: munich show (mineralientage) 2019 (John S. White)
04 Dec-09:22:45 Re: munich show (mineralientage) 2019 (Tony L. Potucek)
04 Dec-04:56:00 Re: asbestos town name change (James Catmur)
04 Dec-03:20:27 Re: a mineralogical trip through germany / sachsen - saxony (Tobi)
04 Dec-03:19:33 Re: "jaguar" agates from wy (Jordi Fabre)
03 Dec-19:52:58 Re:"jaguar" agates from wy (Jrh4)
03 Dec-19:39:11 Re: a mineralogical trip through germany / sachsen - saxony (Jesse Fisher)
03 Dec-17:34:34 Re: asbestos name change (Pete Richards)
03 Dec-17:02:55 Re: asbestos name change (Jordi Fabre)
03 Dec-16:46:30 Re: some thoughts about the recents munich and expominer shows (Tobi)
03 Dec-16:41:14 Re: collection of sante celiberti - a mineralogical trip through italy (Sante Celiberti)
03 Dec-15:10:12 Re: asbestos name change (Rweaver)
03 Dec-14:34:15 Re: asbestos name change (Jordi Fabre)
03 Dec-14:32:50 Re: asbestos name change (Peter Lemkin)
03 Dec-14:31:15 Re: asbestos name change (Joseph Doliveira)
03 Dec-14:25:59 Re: collection of fiebre verde (Philippe Durand)
03 Dec-14:21:53 Re: asbestos name change (Lluis)
03 Dec-14:19:34 Asbestos name change (James Catmur)

For lists of newest topics and postings click here


RSS RSS

View unanswered posts

Why and how to register

Index Index
 FAQFAQ RegisterRegister  Log inLog in
 {Forgotten your password?}Forgotten your password?  

Like
60612


The time now is Dec 05, 2019 20:25

Search for a textSearch for a text   

A general guide for using the Forum with some rules and tips
The Mineralogical Record
  
  Index -> The Mineralogical Record
Like
13


View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message

Jordi Fabre
Overall coordinator of the Forum



Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Posts: 4370
Location: Barcelona


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Apr 18, 2010 10:31    Post subject: The Mineralogical Record  

The quality of the magazine The Mineralogical Record ( https://www.mineralogicalrecord.com/index.asp ) has always been considered the best among the journals of minerals from around the world. I totally agree with this general opinion and as proof I refer to two facts.
- The first fact it is objective: the recent concession to the Record of the distinction of the most prestigious honor, the 2009 "Gold Ink Award” in the category scientific &technical journals for the printing's quality of the supplement "Private Mineral Collections in Texas" published in Vol. 40, No. 1, January-February 2009
- The second fact it is subjective. In my opinion the scientific quality of the magazine has notably increased in the last editions. I wanted to highlight the exceptional quality of the special issue devoted to Merelani, Tanzania in September-October edition of 2009 and the more recent of January-February 2010 with a prodigious article of the great Thomas P. Moore about the Alpine pink Fluorite of the Alps.

Congratulations to the Record to keep such excellent quality. From my side (and I believe that from most - or all - members of FMF) all the encouragement to keep up the good work they are doing.

By the way, if someone wants to buy old editions of the magazine, he can do it on line through the Record’s web page "Back Issues" -> https://www.mineralogicalrecord.com/detail.asp



The Mineralogical Record September-October 2009.jpg
 Description:
The Merelani's issue. September-October 2009, Vol. 40, No. 5
 Viewed:  22086 Time(s)

The Mineralogical Record September-October 2009.jpg



The Mineralogical Record January-February 2010.jpg
 Description:
The issue of January-February 2010, Vol. 41, No. 1, with the article of the Alpine pink Fluorite
 Viewed:  22046 Time(s)

The Mineralogical Record January-February 2010.jpg



The Mineralogical Record January-February 2009.jpg
 Description:
The January-February 2009, Vol. 40, No. 1 issue, with the special supplement of "Private Mineral Collections in Texas", winner of the "Gold Ink Award”
 Viewed:  22014 Time(s)

The Mineralogical Record January-February 2009.jpg


Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
1
   

Peter Megaw
Site Admin



Joined: 13 Jan 2007
Posts: 854
Location: Tucson, Arizona


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Apr 19, 2010 16:58    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

For its 40th Anniversary, it's great to see the MR get outside recognition...its been a too well kept secret for too long! Recognition within the community has also been good, especially since it is the community that supports it and keeps it on the kind of quality trajectory Jordi mentions. Let's also not forget that both the Mineralogical Record and its editor, Wendell Wilson have received the Carnegie Mineralogical Medal!

Here are some of the earliest covers...I can't remember whether Vol 1 #2 or Vol 2 #2 had the smallest press run and is actually the hardest to get. John???

I can't find a picture of John White back then...but he probably looked about the way he does now...some guys get all the hair



MR1-1.jpg
 Description:
MR vol 1 #1
 Viewed:  21931 Time(s)

MR1-1.jpg



MR1-2.jpg
 Description:
MR vol 1 #2
 Viewed:  21950 Time(s)

MR1-2.jpg



MR2-2.jpg
 Description:
MR vol 2 # 2
 Viewed:  21918 Time(s)

MR2-2.jpg



MR WEW.jpg
 Description:
WEW way back when
 Viewed:  21972 Time(s)

MR WEW.jpg



_________________
Siempre Adelante!
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

John S. White
Site Admin



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Posts: 1246
Location: Stewartstown, Pennsylvania, USA


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Apr 20, 2010 04:28    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Many copies of vol. 1 #1 were sent out free in order to win subscriptions and that was probably a very bad idea. It made the number of copies in circulation far less than that for subsequent issues. It was reprinted some time later but with the cover in black and white, not full color.
_________________
John S. White
aka Rondinaire
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

vic rzonca




Joined: 18 Nov 2008
Posts: 773
Location: MA


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Apr 20, 2010 06:49    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Hair indeed. On page 48 of the History of the Tucson Show issue of MR by Bob Jones, please find the evidence.
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

Pete Modreski
Site Admin



Joined: 30 Jul 2007
Posts: 674
Location: Denver, Colorado


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Apr 20, 2010 11:28    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

It is and has always been a great magazine. I have the complete set and treasure it as a reference source, or just an enjoyable thing to pick one up and browse through. I started subscribing, not sure if it was during their first year or the second, but I wisely and happily ordered all the existing issues when I did start my subscription.

Pete Modreski
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
1
   

stumpy




Joined: 08 Feb 2010
Posts: 30

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Apr 22, 2010 02:50    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

The Min Rec is a good magazine, but I think Rocks & Minerals is better these days and more accessible, not to mention the wonderful ExtraLapis. Min Rec is too pompous and sycophantic towards the millionaire American collectors that have taken over the hobby - it seems obsessed with the whole "culture" of mineral collecting at the expense of mineralogy. The choice of localities to feature is often pretty stupid too - why the hell pick Volodarsk-Volynski when there is already a whole issue of Mineralogical Almanac devoted to it? Surely there are plenty of other interesting Russian localities they could have chosen? So, Min Rec, take your head out of your backside, stop sucking up to the more-money-than-sense Yanks and start thinking about the other 99% of mineral collectors out there.
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

Jordi Fabre
Overall coordinator of the Forum



Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Posts: 4370
Location: Barcelona


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Apr 22, 2010 03:14    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Already discussed before...- > https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?t=792
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

stumpy




Joined: 08 Feb 2010
Posts: 30

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Apr 23, 2010 07:57    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Quite!
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

Peter




Joined: 16 Jan 2009
Posts: 339
Location: Sweden / Luxembourg

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Apr 28, 2010 13:58    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

stumpy wrote:
The choice of localities to feature is often pretty stupid too -
why the hell pick Volodarsk-Volynski
when there is already a whole issue of Mineralogical Almanac devoted to it?
Surely there are plenty of other interesting Russian localities they could have chosen?

To find the answer to a question, turn it around! Why the hell not!
If you read booth articles you might understand :)


Much of the MR article I intended as a compliment to the MA issue, which itself was excellent, only lacking some more collector related information which I tried to put into my Volodarsk article. There was no information at all about specific pegmatites.
It is as to write about San Diego pegmatites without mentioning what came from where. Now, in the old Soviet times each pegmatite only got a number, not a pretty or fancy, easy to remember name as "The Tourmaline Queen Mine, the Stewart Mine, The Pala Chief Mine, The Himalaya Mine etc"! Yes pegmatite number 521 is more boring but what can we do?

Volodarsk is in Ukraine, although it started out as one country a millenium or so ago.
I think it is excellent to subscribe to both the MA and the MR and very few articles are overlapping. I read any number articles on the same deposits. If written by people who have personal experience of the deposit I am sure that you will learn something from each author/article. The author of the MA Volodarsk Issue did as far as I know not visit the underground mines since 1973. but rather did a lot of serious laboratory based research on genesis etc which was superb but perhaps above the average collectors knowledge scope. But if you read only articles with information you already know by heart it does not add very much, does it?

Never stop learning. if you think you know even close to all in any subject, you have just not realized that you know closer to nothing!
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
1
   

Bob Harman




Joined: 06 Nov 2015
Posts: 608
Location: Indiana


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 26, 2018 22:34    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Not rare minerals, but rare Mineralogical Records.

I actually received copies of the pictured covers in the mail! At subsequent shows, they provided me with normal copies. Rare Mineralogical Records so to speak.

Anyone else ever see or receive this periodical with cover mistakes?

BOB



DSC02128.JPG
 Description:
 Viewed:  4336 Time(s)

DSC02128.JPG



DSC02130.JPG
 Description:
 Viewed:  4343 Time(s)

DSC02130.JPG



DSC03941.JPG
 Description:
 Viewed:  4339 Time(s)

DSC03941.JPG



DSC03951.JPG
 Description:
 Viewed:  4339 Time(s)

DSC03951.JPG


Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
1
   

Bob Harman




Joined: 06 Nov 2015
Posts: 608
Location: Indiana


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 26, 2018 22:50    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

As an addendum, this odd coincidental occurrence occurred a number of years ago. As a result, the MR circulation manager has gotten to know me. When he sees me at recent shows, he has given me 2 additional issues with cover mistakes. I now have this small cover mistake collection.


In all the mistake issues, the cover mistake occurs, of course, on both the front and back cover. BOB
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
1
   

GneissWare




Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Posts: 1284
Location: California


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 26, 2018 23:06    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Very cool!
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

Gail




Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 5651
Location: Texas, Lone Star State.


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 26, 2018 23:14    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Well, as chair of the board of directors I will say I truly love our publication!
_________________
Minerals you say? Why yes, I'll take a dozen or so...
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

Peter Lemkin




Joined: 18 Nov 2016
Posts: 238
Location: Prague

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 27, 2018 02:25    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Coins and stamps with such mistakes are worth MANY times more than the normal.....who knows....
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

Bob Carnein




Joined: 22 Aug 2013
Posts: 157
Location: Florissant, CO


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 27, 2018 16:23    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

stumpy wrote:
The Min Rec is a good magazine, but I think Rocks & Minerals is better these days and more accessible, not to mention the wonderful ExtraLapis. Min Rec is too pompous and sycophantic towards the millionaire American collectors that have taken over the hobby - it seems obsessed with the whole "culture" of mineral collecting at the expense of mineralogy. The choice of localities to feature is often pretty stupid too - why the hell pick Volodarsk-Volynski when there is already a whole issue of Mineralogical Almanac devoted to it? Surely there are plenty of other interesting Russian localities they could have chosen? So, Min Rec, take your head out of your backside, stop sucking up to the more-money-than-sense Yanks and start thinking about the other 99% of mineral collectors out there.


I agree that Rocks and Minerals is MUCH better than it used to be. The scientific quality of the articles is excellent (though, at times, the editing needs some work).

MR's article choices may reflect what's submitted by the community; I don't know whether they solicit articles. On the whole, I still look forward to each issue, and I'm not one of those more-money-than-sense Yanks you're talking about (I hope ??) The DVD supplements are also interesting--especially those of the Dallas Symposium.
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
1
   

Gail




Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 5651
Location: Texas, Lone Star State.


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 28, 2018 16:19    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Always delightful to hear from people without an identity. People who are so narcissistic as to make assumptions about wealth, origin and demeanor. People who choose a rather silly name such as stumpy to hide behind. Yawn. Wake me when you step up and let us know who you are, until then your voice is minimized by your anonymity.



stumpy wrote:
The Min Rec is a good magazine, but I think Rocks & Minerals is better these days and more accessible, not to mention the wonderful ExtraLapis. Min Rec is too pompous and sycophantic towards the millionaire American collectors that have taken over the hobby - it seems obsessed with the whole "culture" of mineral collecting at the expense of mineralogy. The choice of localities to feature is often pretty stupid too - why the hell pick Volodarsk-Volynski when there is already a whole issue of Mineralogical Almanac devoted to it? Surely there are plenty of other interesting Russian localities they could have chosen? So, Min Rec, take your head out of your backside, stop sucking up to the more-money-than-sense Yanks and start thinking about the other 99% of mineral collectors out there.

_________________
Minerals you say? Why yes, I'll take a dozen or so...
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

Philippe Durand




Joined: 10 May 2016
Posts: 429
Location: Sainte Adresse


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 29, 2018 06:48    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

I don t know Rocks & Minerals magazine; it is surely pretty good.

As a long time reader of the Min Record, I always enjoy it. Yes, it is somewhat elite oriented.
So,where is the problem, it makes me dream.
Keep on going MR;

I am sure that extraordinary (with defects) issues will be collectibles :)
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
1
   

Bob Carnein




Joined: 22 Aug 2013
Posts: 157
Location: Florissant, CO


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 29, 2018 18:55    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

I've been thinking about this thread, and, at the risk of beating a dead horse, I would like to add a couple of things. First, the MR costs (in the US) about $80 per year and goes out to 5000 or so subscribers. That comes to about $400K of income from subscribers. I assume the magazine gets some significant income from those whole-page advertisers, whose full color ads are themselves a virtual museum of things most of us may never see in person. Considering costs of production and mailing, I can't imagine anyone is getting rich on this. It appears to be a "labor of love", and the fact that it has endured as a quality product and at a reasonable price is, to me, amazing. If you don't like the hype, try reading the articles. They're excellent.

Second, wealthy patrons are the reason many worthwhile things in our hobby exist. I go to Mindat.org whenever I need some quick information--it's, to me, the most valuable mineral resource out there. But, how many of us donate to Mindat when they send out their occasional appeals? I believe the answer is in the low hundreds. Once again, think of the expertise involved (I'm sure Jolyon Ralph could make a lot of money using his computer skills for some other end) and the enormous hole that would be left if it shut down. I'm thankful for those individuals and businesses that support worthwhile projects for which most of us can't pay nearly what they're worth.

Third, as I enter the fourth quarter of my mortal century, it dismays me to see a lot of clever but not very smart people railing against the "elites" and "elitists". When I was young, those people were called "experts", and many people, even those without much education, valued their contributions to civil society. In the US, we make fun of "elites" while worshiping some of the worst members of our culture. Granted, some mineral collectors are treasure hunters who don't care much about the science; a few of them might have more money than sense, but who am I to make judgments about that? They support high end dealers who, in turn, help to support things like Mindat and the MR. I say "Thank Goodness" for that.
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
6
   

Chris Rayburn




Joined: 07 Oct 2013
Posts: 52
Location: Arvada, Colorado

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Dec 31, 2018 08:28    Post subject: Re: The Mineralogical Record  

Very thoughtful input Bob. This thread took a bit of a turn from Bob H's original purpose. I believe you've brought it back around to solid ground. I happen to agree with the points you've made; not all of us will (which is fine), but I thank you for expressing them so reasonably.
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   
Display posts from previous:   
   Index -> The Mineralogical Record   All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1
    

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


All pictures, text, design © Forum FMF 2006-2019


Powered by FMF