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Jordi Fabre
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Posted: Nov 01, 2021 15:06 Post subject: Re: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 - Like a new Show |
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Jordi Fabre wrote: |
- Next weekend I will publish a new post with more though about this edition of Mineralientage, once I have better digested the enormous volume of information that a Fair like this always generate.
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Still without having been able to fully digest the Mineralientage due to the excess of experiences that a great Show like that produces (and more after almost two years without Shows) and also because it takes time to take photos / analysis etc. ... I wait until next week to publish a short note about the (scarce) new discoveries of this year in Munich.
In any case, one of the things to comment on is that if in general it has been said that there were few new discoveries, it is not because there have been none during these two years but because in that period most of the new discoveries had already been published before the Show on different web pages. The world continues to give many new discoveries everywhere but since there are no Shows, these news have not been seen in Shows but online.
Another thing that I would like to comment on is the new Show Date. It was said that it could be due to some kind of problem with the Mineralientage and in fact it is not. It is due to something that in my more than 30 years as an exhibitor in Munich I have already experienced twice before, and that is due to the coincidence of the Mineralientage with a huge Show, in this case 'Bauma' -> https://www.bauma.de/en/ that periodically takes the entire Messe and forces the other smaller Shows to move and search for different dates. It is true that the coincidence with the Oktoberfest will not be at all good to find flights and accommodations, but in return it gives the possibility of being able to visit that crazy party 😉
While I prepare the next post with the (scarce) new discoveries from Munich, I'm publishing 10 photos, 9 of Carles Manresa, not published before, that he very kindly passed on to me, and a photo I did to remember that it is not so bad that the Mineralientage goes to September because In Munich it can be very bad weather at the end of October.
BTW, do not forget to visit the Spanish thread where Carles Manresa already published over 500 images of minerals!
https://www.foro-minerales.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14842
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Posted: Nov 01, 2021 15:39 Post subject: Re: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 - Like a new Show |
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Jordi Fabre wrote: |
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It is true that the coincidence with the Oktoberfest will not be at all good to find flights and accommodation, but in return it gives the possibility of being able to visit that crazy party 😉
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I just booked my accommodation a couple of days ago and I eagerly expect a little bit of madness to break even ;-)
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Posted: Nov 02, 2021 08:26 Post subject: Re: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 |
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Nice impressions, I love that rhodochrosite from Oppu Mine!
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Posted: Nov 06, 2021 14:48 Post subject: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 - New Discoveries (1) |
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This is the first installment of the recent new discoveries that I can talk about and post their photos.
Let's start with the indefatigable Panasqueira Mine of which Silvia is making an excellent chronicle at Silvia's Collection
Although for many years Fluorite was a very difficult mineral in Panasqueira, in recent years there have been quite a few and some of quality, but what was not expected was that crystals of 11 centimeters were found (in June 2021) and that they also contained a 'surprise'...
Mineral: | Fluorite on Muscovite with Arsenopyrite, Cassiterite and Quartz |
Locality: | Minas da Panasqueira, Aldeia de São Francisco de Assis, Covilhã, Castelo Branco, Cova da Beira, Centro, Portugal |  |
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Dimensions: | 11 x 9.5 x 5.4 cm |
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This is the Fluorite. Yes, extremely large, but although very rich in crystallographically forms, not the nicest Fluorite existing, but...
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Mineral: | Fluorite on Muscovite with Arsenopyrite, Cassiterite and Quartz |
Locality: | Minas da Panasqueira, Aldeia de São Francisco de Assis, Covilhã, Castelo Branco, Cova da Beira, Centro, Portugal |  |
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Dimensions: | 11 x 9.5 x 5.4 cm |
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...if we place a light behind, something seems to wake up inside the giant...
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Mineral: | Fluorite on Muscovite with Arsenopyrite, Cassiterite and Quartz |
Locality: | Minas da Panasqueira, Aldeia de São Francisco de Assis, Covilhã, Castelo Branco, Cova da Beira, Centro, Portugal |  |
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Dimensions: | 11 x 9.5 x 5.4 cm |
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...and here you have! two colorful crossed phantoms inside the giant, the green one oriented following the first growing of the cubes and the blue one surrounding the first phantom and following the opposite direction of the second phase of growing.
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Posted: Nov 07, 2021 08:16 Post subject: Re: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 |
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New dates for the Munich show 2022?
Official news is that next year's show will be held on the weekend straddling September and October, which overlaps with Oktoberfest, the world's largest beer festival.
When attending a small mineral show this morning in Paris, I was told by several dealers who also exhibit in Munich that the organizers of the largest European show are actually looking for an alternate date, possibly on early December 2022.
Gérard
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Posted: Nov 07, 2021 13:18 Post subject: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 - New Discoveries (2) Shijiangshan |
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The Shijiangshan Mines in Yinwu, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China is becoming an inexhaustible source of 'best known'.
It started with the Borcarites with Cahnite (initially erroneously attributed to Huanggang), continued with the Olshanskyites, then the Roweites and recently the Imayoshiites. Well, we must add another species to the list of 'the best of' from this mine. In Munich they could seen fine specimens of the rare Tatarinovite associated with the cohort of other species of that mine, mine that will undoubtedly be a world reference in the near future.
To know more read the paper: Rare Borate Minerals from the Shijiangshan-Shalonggou Deposits, Hexigten Banner, Inner Mongolia, China at the Rocks & Minerals magazine (Volume 96, 2021 - Issue 5 - Pages 392-409, authors Dr. César Menor-Salván, Berthold Ottens and Ed Richards
Mineral: | Borcarite with Cahnite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan mining district, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | 5.2 x 2.9 x 2.6 cm |
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Mineral: | Cahnite on Borcarite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan mining district, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | Cahnite crystals about 0.2 cm |
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Mineral: | Olshanskyite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan mining district, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | 4.8 × 4.4 × 3.8 cm |
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Mineral: | Roweite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan mining district, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | Roweite group of crystals: 1 × 0.9 cm |
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Mineral: | Imayoshiite with Tobermorite-Clinotobermorite and Andradite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan Mine, Shijiangshan village, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | 7.6 x 6 x 4 cm |
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Mineral: | Imayoshiite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan Mine, Shijiangshan village, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | About 1 x 0.4 cm |
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Mineral: | Bultfonteinite with Imayoshiite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan Mine, Shijiangshan village, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | 4.4 × 4 × 1.6 cm |
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Mineral: | Bultfonteinite with Imayoshiite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan Mine, Shijiangshan village, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | 4.4 × 4 × 1.6 cm |
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Mineral: | Imayoshiite with Tobermorite-Clinotobermorite and Andradite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan Mine, Shijiangshan village, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | 10.5 x 8.5 x 4.6 cm |
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Mineral: | Imayoshiite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan Mine, Shijiangshan village, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | around 0.7 cm |
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...with gemmy crystals of Imayoshiite...
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Mineral: | Datolite (variety bakerite) |
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...and other species associated like this Datolite variety bakerite...
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Mineral: | Tatarinovite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan Mine, Shijiangshan village, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Dimensions: | 7 x 5 x 3.5 cm |
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And then in Munich, one more: the Tatarinovite...
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Mineral: | Tatarinovite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan Mine, Shijiangshan village, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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...with other minerals related, like Diopside, Andradite, Bultfonteinite, Tobermorite-Clinotobermorite, Imayoshiite... (under analysis)
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Mineral: | Tatarinovite |
Locality: | Shijiangshan Mine, Shijiangshan village, Yinwu, Linxi, Ulanhad League, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China |  |
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Shijiangshan, a great mining area!
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Posted: Nov 08, 2021 01:44 Post subject: Re: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 |
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Fiebre Verde wrote: | New dates for the Munich show 2022?
Official news is that next year's show will be held on the weekend straddling September and October, which overlaps with Oktoberfest, the world's largest beer festival.
When attending a small mineral show this morning in Paris, I was told by several dealers who also exhibit in Munich that the organizers of the largest European show are actually looking for an alternate date, possibly on early December 2022.
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It doesn't seem to me a very good idea, the winter weather in Munich could be complicated, especially moving by car, and many people have already booked flights and hotels for the official dates...
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Posted: Nov 08, 2021 03:19 Post subject: Re: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 |
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Jordi Fabre wrote: | Fiebre Verde wrote: | Official news is that next year's show will be held on the weekend straddling September and October, which overlaps with Oktoberfest, the world's largest beer festival.
When attending a small mineral show this morning in Paris, I was told by several dealers who also exhibit in Munich that the organizers of the largest European show are actually looking for an alternate date, possibly on early December 2022. | It doesn't seem to me a very good idea, the winter' weather in Munich could be complicated, especially moving by car, and many people has already booked flights and hotels for the official dates... | I agree, the end of December may not be the best idea for an event at the foot of the Alps ... :-/
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Posted: Nov 08, 2021 04:35 Post subject: Re: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 |
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Jordi Fabre wrote: | It doesn't seem to me a very good idea, the winter' weather in Munich could be complicated, especially moving by car, and many people has already booked flights and hotels for the official dates... |
11 months before the official date (overlapped with Oktoberfest) my hotel room price had already been multiplied by 2.5. I guess as that date approaches it might be multiplied by 4. And the flight tickets will be unavailable. I much prefer to be cold than not make the trip.
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Posted: Nov 08, 2021 04:51 Post subject: Re: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 |
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Carles Millan wrote: | Jordi Fabre wrote: | It doesn't seem to me a very good idea, the winter' weather in Munich could be complicated, especially moving by car, and many people has already booked flights and hotels for the official dates... |
11 months before the official date (overlapped with Oktoberfest) my hotel room price had already been multiplied by 2.5. I guess as that date approaches it might be multiplied by 4. And the flight tickets will be unavailable. I much prefer to be cold than not make the trip. |
When the Mineralientage overlapped with the Oktoberfest in the past (two times) the people did reservation in cities around Munich at 100 km far or so, but well connected by train with the Messe.
One hour more every day and the extra charge for the train's tickets but cheap prices for the hotels.
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Posted: Nov 08, 2021 05:21 Post subject: Re: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 |
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Might be a solution, but it adds more stress and pressure to the trip just to save not much money: the flight tickets will be expensive and difficult to get anyway, and the hotel owners in Munich surroundings are not stupid.
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Posted: Nov 14, 2021 12:03 Post subject: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 - New Discoveries (3) |
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I continue with the (scarce) news that I saw in Munich 2021. After two years it is difficult to say what was new in Munich or what was stored and was previously appearing on web pages or in small Shows prior to Munich, but I can say that these three things found during the pandemic period stood out in Munich.
- A relatively large geode that was found in the Bou Nahas Mine in July 2020 and that gave more than 50 pieces of idiomorphic Baryte crystals, some very large, almost completely coated by small Pyrite crystals that form a kind of mosaic, giving very aesthetic specimens with a lot of color and luster.
- After exhaustive analyzes made at the Muséum National d'Histoire Naturelle in Paris, some curious green crystals found in Kakanda, R.D. Congo, turned out to be Kolwezite after Cuprite crystals. As them sometimes appear on druses of cobaltoan Calcite with a very intense color, the whole combo is very pleasant.
- Shortly before the start of the pandemic, in Trepča were found good crystals of Bournonite on the typical sulfide combos from there, and during the pandemic period they have continued to emerge, even better than the first ones, brighter and with more defined crystal faces, and therefore with a quality that makes them compete well with those of other famous localities.
More reviews coming soon...
Mineral: | Pyrite coating Baryte |
Locality: | Bou Nahas Mine, Oumjrane mining area, Alnif Commune, Tinghir Province, Drâa-Tafilalet Region, Morocco |  |
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Dimensions: | 10 x 8 x 5.1 cm / larger Baryte: 6.3 x 5 cm |
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Found in July 2020
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Mineral: | Pyrite coating Baryte |
Locality: | Bou Nahas Mine, Oumjrane mining area, Alnif Commune, Tinghir Province, Drâa-Tafilalet Region, Morocco |  |
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Dimensions: | 9.7 x 9 x 10 cm / larger Baryte: 8.5 x 5 cm |
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Found in July 2020
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Mineral: | Kolwezite after Cuprite on Co-bearing Calcite |
Locality: | Kakanda, Kambove District, Katanga Copper Crescent, Katanga (Shaba), Democratic Republic of the Congo (Zaire) |  |
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Dimensions: | 12 x 8.4 x 3.3 cm |
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Found in 2021
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Locality: | Kakanda, Kambove District, Katanga Copper Crescent, Katanga (Shaba), Democratic Republic of the Congo (Zaire) |  |
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Dimensions: | Crystal of Kolwezite after Cuprite: 1.1 x 1 cm |
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Mineral: | Kolwezite after Cuprite on Co-bearing Calcite |
Locality: | Kakanda, Kambove District, Katanga Copper Crescent, Katanga (Shaba), Democratic Republic of the Congo (Zaire) |  |
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Dimensions: | Crystal of Kolwezite after Cuprite: 1.1 x 1 cm |
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Found in 2021
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Mineral: | Bournonite on Pyrite and with Sphalerite and Calcite |
Locality: | Trepča Complex, Trepča Valley, Kosovska Mitrovica, Kosovska Mitrovica District, Kosovo |  |
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Dimensions: | 11.2 x 9.1 x 7.7 cm / crystal of Bournonite: 2.5 x 2.3 cm |
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Mineral: | Bournonite on Pyrite |
Locality: | Stan Trg (Stan Terg, Stari Trg) Mine, Trepča Complex, Trepča Valley, Kosovska Mitrovica, Kosovska Mitrovica District, Kosovo |  |
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Dimensions: | Crystal of Bournonite: 2.5 x 2.3 cm |
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Found in 2020
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Posted: Jan 02, 2022 14:48 Post subject: Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 - New Discoveries (and 4) |
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As we said yesterday ... 😉
Due to some slight vision problems I have not been able to close my chronicle so far, and, curiously, things have happened along the way.
Those 'Tatarinovitas' came with the analysis of a prestigious German University, but despite the fact that Dr. César Menor-Salván has analyzed each and every sample to exhaustion with the help even of N.V. Chukanov, one of the discoverers of the species, has not been able to find Tatarinovite there. The fact is that Imayoshiite and Tatarinovite are two extremely similar species and, of course, there is no doubt that Tatarinovite is in the Shijiangshan Mine, but in the specimens of the photos of Munich Show (Mineralientage) 2021 - New Discoveries (2) Shijiangshan there are Imayoshiite, Datolite (variety bakerite), Bultfonteinite, Axinite- (Fe), Andradite and Schorl but not Tatarinovite.
One more proof of how important the analytical results are today, especially when compared to earlier times when minerals were 'named' quite easily.
I close my chronicle of Munich 2021 with images of another of the few novelties of that edition, some beautiful Golds from La Rinconada, Ananea District, Puno Department, Peru.
Mineral: | Gold with Quartz |
Locality: | La Rinconada, Ananea District, San Antonio de Putina Province, Puno Departament, Peru |  |
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Dimensions: | 2.1 × 1.8 × 1.2 cm |
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One of the new Gold on Quartz from La Rinconada, Peru, mined in March 2021 |
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