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New Mexico Collecting - (27)
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PostPosted: May 24, 2018 22:56    Post subject: Re: New Mexico Collecting - (27)  

We spent about 5 years (2007-2011) collecting the areas with the large cleaves until those areas became inaccessible due to mine convergence. With these areas no longer available, we had to find somewhere else to collect.

Several exploration trips in mid 2011 led to another location that had potential about 400-500 meters away in another stoped out area (Area 2). This stope (or "panel" as it is called in a room and pillar mine) had once been mined to over 2 meters in height, but after 30 years of convergence, had been reduced to less than 1 meter tall in many places. It did not have the large cleaved crystals, but a few smaller ones were evident in the ribs (walls) of the drifts. Most of the crystals had been cut in half by the previous mining, but smaller crystals meant better chances of surviving without being damaged. A couple of more trips were required to find a good area to collect, but when we did, the experience was a field collectors dream.

On the far side of the panel, the miners had cut through two pure sylvite seams ranging from a few centimeters to about a meter thick which contained numerous halite crystals encased in the sylvite. In what was to become known as the "Blue Ice" and Frozen Blue" seams, large sections of the ribs (walls) had spalled off of the main rock and had fallen down in the drifts. After crawling through a 40 cm pinch point during the discovery trip, I began to notice dark blue cubes frozen in the ribs and the fallen segments of the spalled rock. The second thing I noticed was that there were blue crystals lying all over the ground! The first few trips to these two seams we barely had to use collecting tools at all: all we had to do was walk (or in many cases crawl) along the drifts and pick loose specimens off of the floor and wrap them up for safekeeping. I'm sure collectors have often heard or dreamed of finding a locality for the first time where specimens were just lying everywhere waiting to be collected. This discovery was a realization of that dream!

Not only were the specimens plentiful at first, but the quality of the crystals were many orders of magnitude better than anything found previously. Many of the cubes less than an inch had survived the convergence pressures, and were associated with a nice contrast of white or colorless sylvite. In exceptional cases, crystals as large as 25 cm were collected without damage. Even after the easy material had been collected, most of our collecting time was spent crawling along the drifts and breaking apart the spalls to find the crystals inside. In my 30+ years of field collecting, this was my most exciting, memorable and productive adventures ever. The panel continued to produce exceptional specimens until 2014 when the whole blue halite area became inaccessible with mine convergence. Unfortunately, no specimens will ever be collected here again, but I feel blessed to have had the opportunity to collect so many great specimens while the chance was still present.
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PostPosted: May 24, 2018 23:49    Post subject: Re: New Mexico Collecting - (27)  

I will start with early photos and progress to the later specimens after the Blue Ice and Frozen Blue seams were discovered.


Halite on sylvite and sylvinite.JPG
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 20 cm
 Description:
This is one of the few matrix specimens with complete crystals to have come from early collecting before mid 2011. Jerry Simmons photo
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Frozen Blue Seam.jpg
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Description:
Here is a photo of the Frozen Blue Seam as it looked immediately after discovery. Nearly all of the dark forms along the floor and ribs are crystals waiting to be collected. The height of the drift is less than 1 meter, where it had originally been over 2 meters tall.
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Working the FB seam.jpg
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Description:
My collecting partner working the Frozen Blue seam.
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FB 1.jpg
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: FOV ~75 cm
 Description:
One of the large crystals we extracted. Crystal is about 15 cm across.
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FB 2.jpg
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: FOV ~2 meters
 Description:
Another photo of the Frozen Blue seam. Note the larger blue halite crystals on the left side of the photo, and the smaller crystals encased by sylvite near the center of the photo.
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 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 7.3 cm
 Description:
One of the specimens that prompted the "Frozen Blue" name. This specimen has a blue halite cube completely encased in sylvite.
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Figure 37..jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 14.9 cm
 Description:
This was the other specimen that inspired the "Frozen Blue" name. Only a small corner of the halite crystal is exposed.
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A good day's haul.jpg
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Description:
Once the specimens had been collected, they were transported back to my house for prep work. This is a photo of one of the first collecting trips to the Frozen Blue seam. In most cases I had to remove sylvite from around the halite crystals to expose the nice blue crystals. Many of these specimens were collected by just picking them off of the floor.
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 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: ~ 15 cm
 Description:
This exceptional specimen was collected from the ground just like this. All it needed was to be wrapped and placed into a wheeled crate for transport back to the mantrip.
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 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 18.7 cm
 Description:
Another exceptional specimen just after prep work has been completed. Most of the halite crystals were completely encased in sylvite, which had to be mechanically removed. It's now in the Lyda Hill collection.
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PostPosted: May 25, 2018 19:24    Post subject: Re: New Mexico Collecting - (27)  

Now for some photos of many of the great specimens we found.


Figure 15b..jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 18.2 cm
 Description:
This is the finest specimen that has been collected from the mine. It's named the "Royal Passion", and it was on the cover of the Jan/Feb 2013 Mineralogical Record. It's now in the MIM collection. James Elliott photo.
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Figure 14..jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 8.1 cm
 Description:
Another famous specimen, from the Blue Ice seam. It was on the cover of the German magazine Lapis in December 2012. Jeff Scovil photo.
 Viewed:  28761 Time(s)

Figure 14..jpg



Figure 21..jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 9.5 cm
 Description:
A great specimen with superb balance that shows a nice contrast between the blue halite and the white sylvite. Jeff Scovil photo.
 Viewed:  28722 Time(s)

Figure 21..jpg



Figure 17a..jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 8.0 cm
 Description:
Joe Budd photo.
 Viewed:  28745 Time(s)

Figure 17a..jpg



Halite-Sylvite-14cm.jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 14.0 cm
 Description:
One of the finest specimens collected. Crystal is 7 cm wide. Joe Budd photo.
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Halite-Sylvite-108mm.jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 10.8 cm
 Description:
A large crystal completely floating on sylvite, which was very uncommon. Joe Budd photo.
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Halite-Sylvite-68mm.jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 6.8 cm
 Description:
A large crystal with brilliant electric blue color. Joe Budd photo.
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Figure 19..jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 8.2 cm
 Description:
Jeff Scovil photo.
 Viewed:  28785 Time(s)

Figure 19..jpg



Figure 20..jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 7.3 cm
 Description:
Jeff Scovil photo.
 Viewed:  28700 Time(s)

Figure 20..jpg



Figure 16..jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 5.0 cm
 Description:
Jeff Scovil photo.
 Viewed:  28926 Time(s)

Figure 16..jpg



Figure 24..jpg
 Mineral: Halite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 11.1 cm
 Description:
A very large crystal showing many different hues of blue and purple. Jeff Scovil photo.
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Figure 24..jpg



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 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 5.5 cm
 Description:
This is a very unusual crystal by the fact that it has a colorless zone on the outside of the blue zone. This is the exact inverse of almost all of the other crystals. It was found in a pool of water, and in my thinking, the colorless halite crystallized over the blue halite as it was sitting in the pool. Phil Simmons photo.
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PostPosted: May 25, 2018 20:16    Post subject: Re: New Mexico Collecting - (27)  

Not only were we able to collect blue halite, we also found a good number of other types of halite along with some rare evaporite minerals at the Kerr McGee mine.


_DSC6782.jpg
 Mineral: Halite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 9.3 cm
 Description:
A group of colorless halite crystals that formed in the brine pools near the Frozen Blue seam. Post mining.
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Figure 62..jpg
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 14.5 cm
 Description:
Another post-mining specimen found in a saline pool near the Frozen Blue seam. This has both halite and sylvite crystals intergrown ,and the easiest way to distinguish between the two minerals is to look for octahedral modifications on the cubes which is sylvite.
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Figure 62..jpg



IMG_6477.JPG
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 7.1 cm
 Description:
A halite stalactite found in a different area of the mine that exhibits a faden-like growth through the stacks of individual crystals. There are a few small sylvite crystals attached to the sides of the larger halite crystals.
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IMG_6477.JPG



IMG_6480.JPG
 Mineral: Halite, Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 8.8 cm
 Description:
A double faden-like stalactite from the same area as the previous specimen.
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Figure 59..jpg
 Mineral: Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 10.2 cm
 Description:
A rare euhedral sylvite crystal that has been highly modified.
 Viewed:  28662 Time(s)

Figure 59..jpg



21.jpg
 Mineral: Sylvite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 12 cm
 Description:
A very large sylvite crystal found in the early days of the mine (1960's-1970's).
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21.jpg



46.jpg
 Mineral: Carnallite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 5.3 cm
 Description:
A nice euhedral crystal found on the upper levels of the mine.
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46.jpg



Carnallite_7.6 cm.jpg
 Mineral: Carnallite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 7.6 cm
 Description:
Virgil Lueth photo.
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Figure 10..jpg
 Mineral: Carnallite
 Locality:
PCA Mine (Intrepid Potash Mine; HB Potash Mine), Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 12.9 cm
 Description:
From the HB Potash mine. Jeff Scovil photo.
 Viewed:  28634 Time(s)

Figure 10..jpg



Figure 9..jpg
 Mineral: Carnallite
 Locality:
PCA Mine (Intrepid Potash Mine; HB Potash Mine), Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 8.0 cm
 Description:
An old find from the HB Potash mine, a few km north of the Kerr McGee mine. Jeff Scovil photo.
 Viewed:  28644 Time(s)

Figure 9..jpg



_DSC5103 (2).jpg
 Mineral: Langbeinite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 9.3 cm
 Description:
A rare potassium-magnesium sulfate found on the lower levels of the mine. This was one of the two primary ores mined for potassium in the district. Unfortunately, the mineral has a tendency to alter to white, chalky leonite after exposure to air for a few months.
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_DSC6515.jpg
 Mineral: Langbeinite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 7.7 cm
 Description:
A well-defined crystal of the rare sulfate. Colors of langbeinite include white, salmon, pink, orange, beige, green and red.
 Viewed:  28721 Time(s)

_DSC6515.jpg



_DSC7129.jpg
 Mineral: Langbeinite, Halite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 6.7 cm
 Description:
Lang crystal on a matrix of halite. The langbeinite had to be etched out of the halite with water.
 Viewed:  28722 Time(s)

_DSC7129.jpg



_DSC7177.jpg
 Mineral: Langbeinite
 Locality:
Kerr McGee Mine, Carlsbad Potash District, Eddy County, New Mexico, USA
 Dimensions: 1.5 cm
 Description:
A gemmy crystal that is highly modified.
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PostPosted: Jun 28, 2020 02:35    Post subject: Re: New Mexico Collecting - (27)  

Very beautiful! Are you going to keep it for display only?
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PostPosted: Jun 29, 2020 05:42    Post subject: Re: New Mexico Collecting - (27)  

Thanks again, Philip, I have never seen so many superb halite specimens! Really awesome!!!
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